My table is a bit confused about Blast when used by an Ardence. Blast says that its strength scales with CAT. Ardence’s passive lets them increase the CAT of their powers by 2.
Does this mean anything special for Blast, like it does 2 extra slashes, since “its strength scales with CAT”?
bonus question: The Category chart says using higher/lower CAT effects is more/less effective. If I use a CAT 2 power on a CAT 1 Sin, should it get a +1D or what? What about +2D if jt’s CAT 3 vs 1?
I'm kind of confused by the awarding of xp for fulfilling agenda items. Do you get 2 xp if you fulfill both items in one session? As is that even possible for agendas like Beast where they have to hold back AND get into a fight?
You get XP for following the unbolded agenda item. You also gain 1 XP for following any one bolded agenda item. You also gain 1 xp for following any two+ bolded agenda items.
All three give you XP separately, so you can get up to 3 if you fulfill all three (the first bolded you do counts for both the last two).
control. The effects of this are noted in each sin’s
pressure description.
And here it should probably be "increases" instead of "increass". Sorry if this isn't the place to post it (I can delete these if so); I'm just posting feedback asap after buying it.
Found some issues. The first one is on page 11 or page 6 (Right) has "it" next to the if, the second one is on page 26 or page 14 (Left) is missing the word "to" and the letter "s" at the end of character, the third one is on page 52 or 27 (Left) has the words "hand motions" mixed up, and the fourth one is on page 64 or page 33 (Left) is a pdf error.
I would appreciate a better place to put these if you have one.
Urban Fantasy perfection! I only hope we can see it balanced and a few more games for freaks volumes. But otherwise the fans have got this going. Thanks Tom.
I bought the game and all my friends are gonna play digital, i saw somewhere that i have to ask permission to share the game file so would i be able to share it and or be allowed too? if not is there something else i can do instead?
Does there happen to be a place I can access the update notes text file from 1.1? I am using the 1.2 text notes to trace through the changes in the new book, but I never looked at the 1.1 changes. (By the way the 1.2 changes are very cool, I cannot wait to "accidentally" blow up my friends with Fury)
- I have a rule question: for the lord sin’s severe attack, do you remove a dice if the target answers no or do you remove it if they answer yes? I feel like I might be over complicating it but it seems unclear to me.
CAIN probably runs best as a group game due to how (relatively) lethal a session or Hunt can be. A GM is required in this case to set up the investigation for the players.
I think Solo Play is possible, I've certainly tried (and am trying) workshopping a system to do so, but it will require making some adjustments to how investigations are run.
Hi! We have a community made editable Character Sheet !
100% compatible with the official sheet :3
Here the sheet:
https://norman-noone.itch.io/cain-editable-sheet
And here Tom's itch collection of canon + community stuff for Cain:
Hi! I've made an Editable version of the 1.1 character sheet PDF! Can I post it as free item on my itch account or do you prefer to add it under this page?
Have you considered releasing a more printer friendly version of the pdf? Each page of the pdf is two pages and im not sure how im supposed to get it to print properly. Any advice would be welcome too.
Thanks for the game that I've been enjoying for quite a while.
Would it be ok to use the system for making a fan-conversion of another game (White Wolf's Orpheus - I'm surprised how much it would fit using CAIN system)? I'm talking of the general game mechanics and not the settings, story, etc of course.
Thank you for the free copy you glorious man! -Love the Art -Love the Rules (For the most part, there is some unclear stuff and mispellings) -Love the general simplicity (around an 8/10 when it comes to ease of use)
Would recommend to anyone who is considering on buying it or not
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My table is a bit confused about Blast when used by an Ardence. Blast says that its strength scales with CAT. Ardence’s passive lets them increase the CAT of their powers by 2.
Does this mean anything special for Blast, like it does 2 extra slashes, since “its strength scales with CAT”?
bonus question: The Category chart says using higher/lower CAT effects is more/less effective. If I use a CAT 2 power on a CAT 1 Sin, should it get a +1D or what? What about +2D if jt’s CAT 3 vs 1?
Inner Furnace only affects powers you get from Ardence. Blast is a default blasphemy, so it doesn't count as an Ardence power.
is there a print friendly version?
I saw that there are a few ablities that referince "as the hour passes" what does that mean?
should be 'when pressure increases'
I'm kind of confused by the awarding of xp for fulfilling agenda items. Do you get 2 xp if you fulfill both items in one session? As is that even possible for agendas like Beast where they have to hold back AND get into a fight?
You get XP for following the unbolded agenda item. You also gain 1 XP for following any one bolded agenda item. You also gain 1 xp for following any two+ bolded agenda items.
All three give you XP separately, so you can get up to 3 if you fulfill all three (the first bolded you do counts for both the last two).
tyvm
Page 31 of 1.2: It reads:
I believe it should be "excess", not "access".
And here it should probably be "increases" instead of "increass". Sorry if this isn't the place to post it (I can delete these if so); I'm just posting feedback asap after buying it.
Page 46. I think it's missing an "it" between "though" and "doesn't".
Page 51, shady lender should say "once" instead of "one", I think.
I know this may not be the case but it kinda reminds me of jujutsu kaisen. Just from the main page pictures alone.
Found some issues. The first one is on page 11 or page 6 (Right) has "it" next to the if, the second one is on page 26 or page 14 (Left) is missing the word "to" and the letter "s" at the end of character, the third one is on page 52 or 27 (Left) has the words "hand motions" mixed up, and the fourth one is on page 64 or page 33 (Left) is a pdf error.
I would appreciate a better place to put these if you have one.
I love CAIN, but it has so many little typos and grammar mistakes like this... Hope we can get an update correcting some of it!
I hope that there's a better spot to post these though. It's a great ttrpg, and I don't want to be the reason why others don't try it out.
The discord probably has a spot for those, though IDK, Im not in it.
thanks!
Urban Fantasy perfection! I only hope we can see it balanced and a few more games for freaks volumes. But otherwise the fans have got this going. Thanks Tom.
actually the best ttrpg fucking ever holy guacamole
Fr. D&D should take notes.
This is the pinnacle of rpg design. Is there any possibility we will get a physical book?
I need a CAIN comic now Abbadon. You can't keep doing this to me!
Please make the 1.2 CAINsheet editable!
I want to be able to write on it
Hi! We have a community made editable Character Sheet !

100% compatible with the official sheet :3
Here the sheet:
https://norman-noone.itch.io/cain-editable-sheet
And here Tom's itch collection of canon + community stuff for Cain:
https://itch.io/c/5737113/cain-expanded-universe
EDIT: I'll also update a 1.2 version this evening :D
i approved this btw and it rules
I bought the game and all my friends are gonna play digital, i saw somewhere that i have to ask permission to share the game file so would i be able to share it and or be allowed too? if not is there something else i can do instead?
Does there happen to be a place I can access the update notes text file from 1.1? I am using the 1.2 text notes to trace through the changes in the new book, but I never looked at the 1.1 changes. (By the way the 1.2 changes are very cool, I cannot wait to "accidentally" blow up my friends with Fury)
Hello, I am thinking of printing CAIN but books are kinda hard to update. Is the game nearing something like a final update?
no
Thank you so much for the PAGES version.
- I have a rule question: for the lord sin’s severe attack, do you remove a dice if the target answers no or do you remove it if they answer yes? I feel like I might be over complicating it but it seems unclear to me.
From what I understand, you're to remove the die if the answer is "yes".
Thanks a lot for the pages version! I will order a lulu copy asap.
Has anyone tried and can tell me if it’s a solo game or not? GMless or not?
CAIN probably runs best as a group game due to how (relatively) lethal a session or Hunt can be. A GM is required in this case to set up the investigation for the players.
I think Solo Play is possible, I've certainly tried (and am trying) workshopping a system to do so, but it will require making some adjustments to how investigations are run.
Thank you very much for your feedback. Much appreciated. :D
i would really appreciate a single page format
theres kind of a lot in here to fit in one page
Oh, i meant the pdf being a single pages instead of sheets, thankfully 1.2 just did that!
Hi! We have a community made editable Character Sheet ! 100% compatible with the official sheet :3 Here the sheet: https://norman-noone.itch.io/cain-editable-sheet
And here Tom's itch collection of canon + community stuff for Cain:
https://itch.io/c/5737113/cain-expanded-universe EDIT: I'll also update a 1.2 version this evening :D
Would it be too much to ask for a Brazilian Portuguese version? Pls '-'
I'd LOVE to see an actual play made by you Tom where you DM Cain. I want to see and learn through experience.
A printable version would be amazing
Hi! I've made an Editable version of the 1.1 character sheet PDF!
Can I post it as free item on my itch account or do you prefer to add it under this page?
Have you considered releasing a more printer friendly version of the pdf? Each page of the pdf is two pages and im not sure how im supposed to get it to print properly. Any advice would be welcome too.
Missed the Omega Satan Sale. What a terrible day for rain.
Picked this up on Omega Satan Sale, busily prepping my first game. Thanks for everything, this one is a keeper
Thanks for the game that I've been enjoying for quite a while.
Would it be ok to use the system for making a fan-conversion of another game (White Wolf's Orpheus - I'm surprised how much it would fit using CAIN system)? I'm talking of the general game mechanics and not the settings, story, etc of course.
Thank you for the free copy you glorious man!
-Love the Art
-Love the Rules (For the most part, there is some unclear stuff and mispellings)
-Love the general simplicity (around an 8/10 when it comes to ease of use)
Would recommend to anyone who is considering on buying it or not
Love this^^
Thanks a lot for the game Omega Satan Sale, Tom.
Really cool game!
I'll spread your word. Thank you for your kindness
Really appreciate the free game. Good stuff.
I wonder how many missions would need to be survived to get a char to Rank 6 or 7.
the amount of peak in this book is immaculate